tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post4680904493542817113..comments2024-03-29T14:30:36.976+00:00Comments on Kindred of the Quiet Way: The things that matteredUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-32692818496143612122013-01-03T08:30:45.777+00:002013-01-03T08:30:45.777+00:00:0) I love the idea of "building permeable w...:0) I love the idea of "building permeable walls of His love". That catches my imagination!Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-5412880630765314822013-01-03T05:04:26.898+00:002013-01-03T05:04:26.898+00:00Sorry, you are right, it being an ongoing situatio...Sorry, you are right, it being an ongoing situation does make a difference in how we react and what we do with it. <br />DMW Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-30376997948832691752013-01-02T16:51:55.244+00:002013-01-02T16:51:55.244+00:00Hiya - nice to hear from you :0)
Yes, I also see ...Hiya - nice to hear from you :0)<br /><br />Yes, I also see forgiveness as the cancellation of a debt.<br /><br />If I put your comment together with Buzzfloyd's comment, that comes to pretty much my take on things too - BUT - and this really is a big 'but' - the sense of freedom and release you both speak of seems to me to rely on the forgiveness relating to incidents in the past rather than ongoing situations.<br /><br />The white blanked out spaces on the inner landscape come from being repeatedly hurt by situations or people you cannot leave.<br /><br />It's hard for me to elaborate on that without going into specifics, and I can't really do that publicly.<br /><br />But what I can say is that I am finding it very helpful to learn how to cease to feed situations emotionally by continually attributing meaning to them. Detaching/dissociating from them, resting in simple observing, helps things along well.Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-61370004068753849822013-01-02T15:53:05.600+00:002013-01-02T15:53:05.600+00:00My take on forgiveness is the cancellation of a de...My take on forgiveness is the cancellation of a debt. If I turn the wrong done over to God to deal with, the person(s) that caused it no longer owes me restitution, they owe it to God.(After all it was the evil one working through them that caused the problem in the first place, so I attempting to teach myself to not take their behaviors personally). This way of forgiving has the delicious after effect of removing me from the loop, and letting me walk free from the burden of carrying that hurt around with me. Hurt people tend to either remain constantly vigilant to shield themselves from further hurt, or just build thick self-protective walls and take up permanent residence behind them. The danger with the latter is that of continually diminishing if not disappearing all together. But, the walls are stopping more than just hurt. Healing can't get in either. And then the individual gifts the Creator meant to go out from us to the world are walled up with us. I think the answer is to (slowly, prayerfully)take the walls down. To forgive by turning it over to Him. to seek His healing for the hurt beneath it, and then to build instead permeable walls of His love, keeping the cross between us and that which has the potential to harm us. DMW Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-13298761671025852342013-01-02T09:41:19.448+00:002013-01-02T09:41:19.448+00:00Ah! That's such an insight! I'm sorry to...Ah! That's such an insight! I'm sorry to say that when I'd read that passage in the gospels, I'd always thought of it as no more than "Fine, do without the blessing of peace, then"; I'd never realised the implication (for oneself) of letting one's peace return. How very interesting. Thank you!!Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-65570590328333812412013-01-02T01:06:34.842+00:002013-01-02T01:06:34.842+00:00I'm going to come back and read this again tom...I'm going to come back and read this again tomorrow. Slower. <br /><br />Meanwhile, I THINK we may have had some parallel experiences. Mine, a long time ago. But only in recent months did I realize that while I KNOW I was called to "shake the dust off my feet" I had failed to "let my peace return to me". It was such an aha moment when I recognized that and reclaimed my "peace"!<br /><br />Happy New Year to you! Rebeccahttp://lifeandgodliness-rebecca.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-31002557351074954292013-01-01T18:18:20.621+00:002013-01-01T18:18:20.621+00:00That's really good to hear Stella. Well done ...That's really good to hear Stella. Well done you! :0) xxPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-77072454095450593042013-01-01T17:54:06.861+00:002013-01-01T17:54:06.861+00:00For many years I held on to a great deal of hurt t...For many years I held on to a great deal of hurt that I had received from the hands of someone who I had previously thought of as a good friend. <br />Then suddenly early last year, as a by product of a few sessions of hypnotherapy, I was able to take steps to heal the rift. I can't tell you what a burden was lifted from my shoulders. <br />For 12 years I had not realised how much I had been harming myself by not forgiving the other person.<br />I suppose that I had to realise that neither of us are perfect, we each had our reasons for acting as we did at the time and it takes much less energy to be on amicable terms again than it did to look the other way and seethe each time we walked past each other in the street.Stellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11528862706641857167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-27530714752832135402012-12-31T23:07:36.065+00:002012-12-31T23:07:36.065+00:00I find this helpful, Buzz
http://www.youtube.com/w...I find this helpful, Buzz<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U2Q2puCtqQ Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-21043447854601361492012-12-31T20:57:00.217+00:002012-12-31T20:57:00.217+00:00I find forgiveness a very troublesome concept, bec...I find forgiveness a very troublesome concept, because I'm not sure what it is or how it happens. What you've described here sounds like disassocation or detachment, and I'm not at all sure that it is the same as forgiveness, because if it leaves a large blank area, then it cannot be said to have brought healing. Ignoring something is not the same as processing it and letting it leave you. If it leaves you, you'd get the blank area back as arable land again.Buzzfloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10907833292561328868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-80477906316040436002012-12-31T19:52:55.129+00:002012-12-31T19:52:55.129+00:00Hi Turtlebat, hi Ganeida -
May 2013 surprise you ...Hi Turtlebat, hi Ganeida -<br /><br />May 2013 surprise you over and over again with joy and blessing xxPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-76997283095407621872012-12-31T19:13:25.213+00:002012-12-31T19:13:25.213+00:00I read this yesterday. Went away. Thought about ...I read this yesterday. Went away. Thought about it. I know that I haven't reached a level of detachment. Rather I have divided forgiveness into a split hair. There is forgiveness ~ & then there is the matter of trust. Some people it does not pay to trust again. I am uncertain whether detachment is the way to go. Jesus wept over Jerusalem. The fact he came here in the first place speaks of involvment. On the other hand I mostly keep a book between me & the rest of the world.<br /><br />Blessings on you, Pen, my friend. I am not hopeful for the new year, but whatever happens may you continue to be held firmly in the palm of His hand.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00570697333076967654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-83019051715309093112012-12-31T19:12:42.098+00:002012-12-31T19:12:42.098+00:00Wishing you a blessed and peaceful new year.Wishing you a blessed and peaceful new year.Smallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11127563791177296800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-23029734017573837742012-12-31T15:44:00.319+00:002012-12-31T15:44:00.319+00:00:0) God bless to you the year ahead - may it be fu...:0) God bless to you the year ahead - may it be full of delightful surprises xxxPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-36357764789952782082012-12-31T15:35:23.251+00:002012-12-31T15:35:23.251+00:00May you find peace in 2013 Pen.
I too found Chr...May you find peace in 2013 Pen. <br /><br />I too found Christmas a time of rather painful introspection. <br /><br />I shall be glad to get back to normal and put all the thoughts back in their box until next year.DaisyAnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12680034482022415405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-86015155627853472752012-12-31T13:59:46.005+00:002012-12-31T13:59:46.005+00:00:0( May she be well, may each and all of you be k...:0( May she be well, may each and all of you be kept steady, kept in peace xxxPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-63128725916570749792012-12-31T13:21:43.202+00:002012-12-31T13:21:43.202+00:00I have a lot of forgiving to do also with the loca...I have a lot of forgiving to do also with the local church....I'm doing it every day at the moment...but a bit of a set back yesterday as the gorgeous oldest grandgirl...the one with SMA... was taken in to hospital with severe breathing problems....so I may be back to square one for a while!!!<br />Will keep it up as best I can as I need as much peace at the moment as I can get.<br /><br />love G.Gerry Snapehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269492251928362799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-91482771260617870882012-12-31T09:21:40.583+00:002012-12-31T09:21:40.583+00:00Hi Alice, hi Maria - it's good to have your tw...Hi Alice, hi Maria - it's good to have your two comments here together like this, because by now I know you well enough to feel sure that, yes, you know just what I'm talking about! <br />May the year ahead be blessed, may it bring you joy.<br />xxPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-63082043807740630792012-12-31T04:26:11.270+00:002012-12-31T04:26:11.270+00:00Only with the His help, can I truly let go. I rea...Only with the His help, can I truly let go. I read your words, and I am amazed at how close your sentiments equal mine. Unfortunately, the events, the words, the actions that have been directed towards me and mine, keep me in a state of turmoil, so not caring, seems to be beyond my scope.<br /><br />I am working on forgiving and then forgetting for good. <br /><br />Thank you so much Pen for sharing this today and my friend...may this new year be blessed. I thank you so much for your friendship Pen, for your words and your honesty. <br /><br />I am filled once again... m mbhttp://simpleeveryday.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-90571829610114915052012-12-31T01:42:39.433+00:002012-12-31T01:42:39.433+00:00Thanks for posting this Pen-Ember. I am hearing yo...Thanks for posting this Pen-Ember. I am hearing you. I am going through some of this myself. My benediction: may God's healing grace yet be sufficient.Alice Y.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16267449289432878102noreply@blogger.com