Monday, 23 March 2026

Not sure what to think

 For some while now we — Tony (my husband) and me — have been in search of a place we both wanted to worship.

I was very happy in Methodism, and Tony gave it a really good go but never felt quite at home there. That wasn't why I left, but the reasons for that make a story best left to sink to the bottom of the sea.

For a while we worshipped in a very high Anglican Church — all incense and processions. Again it wasn't Tony's thing (at all) but he was willing to go there if that was what I wanted. I liked it, but after I got ill, and wasn't well enough to drive for a long time, the bus times were wrong so I tried a nearer church (Methodist, and had to leave, see paragraph above).

For a couple of years, of course, we ran our own expression of church on Facebook — The Campfire Church that we started when the UK went into Covid lockdown, and it just kept going until more or less everyone had found physical communities to join again.

More recently we went to a low Anglican church — the old-fashioned kind of Evangelical rather than the charismatic sort. Tony felt comfortable enough with that, but I didn't really fit in. At all. There was a darling couple whose house group we went to, really dear people, and I did like the music in the church, though it was all on a karaoke machine, they didn't have any musicians. But it was okay.

Tony wanted to go to church with me rather than finding separate places to go, and I was running out of ideas.

In an ideal world what I'd like is either cathedral worship or to tack onto the worship of a monastery, but neither of those options present where I live. I went once to an Eastern Orthodox service, and found it very beautiful, but I think I'm a bit more informal than that.

I worshipped with the Quakers for a year or so when I first moved back to Hastings, but though I loved the silence I missed the music — and for me Jesus is central, where I think for Quakers these days it's more a meditative political kind of thing. Beautiful in its way, but not really me.

So in the last few weeks we've been going to a church where Tony is really happy — he absolutely loves it, says it feels like coming home.

It's very hip and trendy. Very ethnically diverse. A loud band — the whole place thumps like it was having a heart attack as we approach on a Sunday morning. There are lots of kiddies. The pastor is a very good preacher — the best we've come across in recent years by a long way. Women are allowed to preach as well, which is refreshing. They stick to a spiritual message and don't turn it into a party political broadcast of sorts, which comes as a relief.

The shape of the liturgy is interesting. At the beginning everyone stands up and there is a long time of singing, very repetitive songs with indeterminate tunes in the modern idiom. At some point there's an offering (with card machines!) while the singing goes on and on. Sometimes there will be a prayer put up on the screens for us all to say together. Then there's always a sermon, quite long, usually good. Then there's more singing and an altar call for people who want to be prayed with individually.

At some point there are detailed notices about the life of the church.

Now then — this rocked me back a bit. Last Sunday we went to church and it was the week of the Hastings Half Marathon, so the service was ending early in order for the congregation to go and cheer on the runners as they passed along the nearby sea road.

So there were lengthy and interesting notices about big things coming up to do with a huge programme for restoring the building, and the church had found a goodnatured and cheerful way of encouraging the wild posse of children who attend to walk in church rather than racing round like the Gadarene swine, so that was in the notices too.

There was long long long long singing as usual. Not songs I knew and hard to distinguish one from the other, but hey, that's fine. 

There was a competent (not brilliant) sermon about principles of prayer, based on the passage about Abraham's servant choosing Rebekah as a wife for Isaac.

Some more singing and an opportunity for those who wanted prayer. At that point, as they were about to all clatter off to the sea road and cheer on the runners, I went and got a bus home because I'm not good at long standing (one reason why Orthodox worship doesn't work for me).

So that was all okay except... well... hello? Hadn't they missed something out? Like, any mention whatsoever that it was Passion Sunday.

I still can't get my head around that really.

The week before was Mothering Sunday, and that was marked — nothing about Jerusalem or that it was Laetare Sunday and how it fits into Lent, but daffs for the kiddies to give out to all the women. Women! "Uh-oh," I said to Tone, "let's see how this goes." I mean we live in a world where even our illustrious leaders can't commit to any certainty of what a woman is. Sure enough, one of the kiddies gave Tony a bunch of daffs. "Told you so," I said.

Anyway that was all well and good, but for Passion Sunday to come and go without even a passing glance? Seriously?

I'm not too sure what I think about that.

At Wild Church we thought about spring and nature and new beginnings and the equinox, but that was fair enough — the folk at Wild Church are barely clinging onto Christianity by their fingernails, more into politics really.

But the C of E on Passion Sunday and no sign at all they even knew? Am I in the right place? 

I'm tired of leaving things, I'd love to find somewhere to belong. That was why I started writing stories of course — the community my heart was looking for. So I can still do that.

This is what I would have wanted to sing, on Sunday morning.




Or this (the words of the song are given under the video).

20 comments:

  1. Hi Pen! Church isn’t easy, is it? I love being a lay minister but I’ve no idea any longer what an ideal church looks like, and like you I have worshipped in many different churches. I’ve experienced my fair share of high-octane charismatic worship – at its best it can be beautiful, at its worst it can be manipulative. These days I tend to prefer more traditional, quieter, contemplative worship. Worship songs these days all sound the same to me (mostly). I still have some Vineyard worship albums from the early 90s – they had a simplicity which I miss in today’s worship scene.

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard a sermon that felt like a party political broadcast, thankfully. I keep my political views out of my sermons.

    I too would struggle with a CoE church that ignored the richness of the liturgical year.

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    1. Hiya — waving to you!
      There are parts of the liturgical year I could just know inside it was happening and not be too fussed about it being missed out — Candlemas, maybe, or the feast of St Michael and All Angels, or St Martin, or All Souls — but there are some, like Advent Sunday and Pentecost and Ascension Day, All Saints Day maybe, and above all the Sundays associated with the Incarnation, the Passion and the Resurrection, that are so integral and foundational to understanding the Christian faith, that I think it is remiss to overlook them. x

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    2. I completely agree.

      (I do love St Michael and All Angels, and also All Souls).

      *waves back×

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  2. Sending hugs to you Pen as I know you desire to find ‘your place’ in your locality, I can now see why the Brothers at St Alcuins mean a great deal to you. Is there a monastery or convent nearby where you could attend a midweek service? Prayers as always for you dear friend xx

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    1. You know, years ago (I mean about 50 years ago!) I used to go to Mass with the Poor Clares at Lawrence Street in York. They had a midweek prayer meeting in the parlour, and I used to go to that as well. I remember their Easter Vigil one year, when we were all sitting in the dark waiting to begin — and waiting... and waiting... — and then a gentle Irish voice spoke into the darkness: "If anyone has some matches we can light the Easter Fire."
      ❤️
      We do have an outreach from the Arundel Poor Clares just half a mile along the road from me, but they live in a normal house repurposed as a convent. I know Vespers is open to the public, but the thing is you have to knock on the door like any normal family house, and I think they're all very elderly now. I'm worried about intruding or trying to figure out how to make it work. They have a website but they haven't updated it in years. If it was just a slip in at the back scenario, I'd probably go every day.
      You know those notices they used to put up in supermarkets, "This till is alarmed"? Well that right there — that's me. I am very cautious and easily discouraged. I like to be able to creep in unobserved.

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    2. I love the Carmelites at Thorganby too, the ones who moved there from Thicket Priory. I'd go there like a shot!

      I know the Benedictines at Wass, too, but they're a bit... erm... elevated or something. I'm made of more basic material than they are. They're lovely, though.

      And all of them are about 200 miles away! The Poor Clares at Lawrence Street are long gone as well.

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    3. Praying that you find a way forward Pen xxx

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  3. Oh, that's the kind of music I understand! Not literally, but I like it, especially the first one. However, I understand the meaning of it, because I know the Russian translation, and we sing it too. As far as I know, its author is St. Bernard.

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    1. ❤️ Да, эти слова приписываются святому Бернарду.

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  4. It must be very difficult to choose a church. I was very lucky that I didn't have to do this :) Although the parishes could be chosen, but even here everything somehow worked out by itself. Now, of course, I am sure that we have the best parish in the city :) It's not that he doesn't have flaws, but nothing is perfect in our world ;)
    I think we need to ask ourselves what is right and what is wrong from your point of view. And find the place that corresponds to it. It doesn't matter what it looks like. In our youth, we choose a more beautiful place, like children choosing a book by its cover. But then it's time to choose the content.

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    1. Похоже, вас направлял Бог. ❤️

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  5. Absolutely! Just in recent days, I've been thinking that it was only the grace of Providence that saved me from a lot of things with very unpleasant consequences. In my youth, I was a goofy kid, like many in my generation. And when I look at some of them, it gets scary. You're from a different generation and a different culture, so it probably doesn't look like that to you... Or maybe it does, because human nature is the same everywhere. We all need a church fence as a protection from evil.

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    1. Похоже, большую часть своей жизни я ошибался чаще, чем поступал правильно. Я постоянно держу нашего Доброго Пастыря в напряжении...

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  6. Latin wisdom says that it is human nature to make mistakes. But as long as we're alive, the situation can still be fixed.

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  7. I can sympathize with you and your search. I've attended many protestant denominations and am currently at the local Anglican church. I think it would be called 'low Anglican'. It is a beautiful old church building and all 4-6 of the parishioners, plus the minister, his wife and 3 young children, rattle around in it.
    We have no musicians (even though we have a beautiful old pipe organ) so sing 'hymns' from the internet. The people are lovely, but I get most of my spiritual teaching from audios I listen to at home on the internet.
    I would gladly attend the Conservative Mennonite church (where I went on and off for 10 years), but since moving, it is too far to travel.
    Wishing you well as you continue your search. xx

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    1. ❤️ Waving across the world to you, Lynda. I remember the lovely photos of the Mennonites you used to put on your blog. Times move on, don't they, but like Mary mother of Jesus, we keep all these things in our hearts. x

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    2. May I ask? Do you play hymn recordings during worship, am I right?

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  8. Обычно нет. Как правило, люди поют в сопровождении органа, фортепиано или группы инструменталистов.
    Но если музыкантов нет, то для сопровождения пения прихожан воспроизводится записанная фонограмма.

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Welcome, friend! I'm always interested to read your comments.