tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post1559532051001670135..comments2024-03-29T14:30:36.976+00:00Comments on Kindred of the Quiet Way: Does a minimalist need a coat?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-17932866897132167032017-05-28T12:57:03.519+01:002017-05-28T12:57:03.519+01:00Your coat sounds lovely!Your coat sounds lovely!Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-33095244945549672522017-05-27T14:09:10.315+01:002017-05-27T14:09:10.315+01:00I actually really like coats... I like the tailore...I actually really like coats... I like the tailored cut of them and the way they fit, so I relish the chance to wear them which is rarely as I live in Australia and it's not cold for many months of the year. My favourite coat is thigh length blue corduroy with a whimsical pattern of rabbits, deer and foxes and woodland trees and flowers. I like that it makes me look magical and fey while everyone else looks dreary in shades of black and grey. <br />But, I don't think you need one... I certainly could get by without one at all! One item I do think I would always keep even if I didn't have a coat is a pashmina. They are a lovely layer of serious warmth with serious economy of space, and very light also. They are the item I aways stash in my purse 'just in case', when I decide I don't think I'll need a coat. And because I am often very off with predicting the weather I have often really appreciated it. <br />So if you don't want a coat, consider a fine wool shawl like a pashmina. Anekhanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-85053124547909600782017-05-22T13:19:57.394+01:002017-05-22T13:19:57.394+01:00Just taken a look at Doris Longacre's book on ...Just taken a look at Doris Longacre's book on Amazon - what brilliant reviews it has! Sounds like an excellent book. Yes - Icelandic wool! Just the thing!Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-71109768001567935752017-05-22T12:54:12.731+01:002017-05-22T12:54:12.731+01:00I have gotten by during Mid-Atlantic winters while...I have gotten by during Mid-Atlantic winters while ignoring the coat in my closet so I'm recently casting it a suspicious eye. I've layered and have a fleece vest that had been Al's (now deceased). Plus I have an amazing wool sweater--a gift from a friend in Iceland--that is warmer than my coat and easier to shovel snow in. I like the poncho idea, though I would take it to a ruan or a hap rather than something that must be pulled over. In More With Less, Doris Longacre chronicles the use of blankets in Lesotho--they are very well worked and given as gifts to brides from grooms, for instance, and for other milestones. They can be folded cleverly to fit any particular girth and are pinned closed, oftentimes with strikingly beautiful jewels. Jennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08817348519203352250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-24981244820048136092017-05-19T20:21:32.035+01:002017-05-19T20:21:32.035+01:00I can imagine that! I have had ponchos in the past...I can imagine that! I have had ponchos in the past, but always made of synthetic fibres - acrylic or whatever. I can imagine a merino one would be very drapey and real.<br />My favourite coats in general are the boiled wool sort - not great in the wet but very pliable and quite earthy.Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-38993286067027530032017-05-19T16:34:51.220+01:002017-05-19T16:34:51.220+01:00Merino wool poncho?
DMWMerino wool poncho?<br />DMWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-38537215736095230492017-05-19T15:55:19.397+01:002017-05-19T15:55:19.397+01:00A winter burial would be a big problem - I think I...A winter burial would be a big problem - I think I'd have to borrow or buy a coat for that. No. No, I'd be too mean. I'd just put a vest on and be cold. Only half an hour. Camping I've gone right off since I thought I'd found that brilliant solution of renting the teepee - only to discover there were rats living there! I wish we had a camper van! For snowy winters I have a massive shawl/scarf my friend Rebecca knitted me, that I'd never part with. It's a prayer shawl really. I'd wrap that all round my head and shoulders. That would keep me warm.<br />I will get a coat if I ever find one that's just right, but they're so expensive and I've passed on so many I couldn't get on with.Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-16117960957784898162017-05-19T14:08:50.937+01:002017-05-19T14:08:50.937+01:00Julie B, my immediate thought was of winters in th...Julie B, my immediate thought was of winters in the American north! People living in environments like that definitely need a coat.<br /><br />I hate being hot, as you know, and frequently choose to go without protection against the elements, even when it's raining, because I'd rather be wet and/or cold than hot. But it depends on the distance travelled, the speed of travel and whether they will be any staying still outdoors (eg waiting at a bus stop). If you are going to walk a long way in the rain, then a wet jumper becomes an uncomfortable, heat-leaching hindrance. If you are walking a short distance, it doesn't matter. If you will walk fast, you'll heat up and regret putting on an extra layers. If you walk slowly, you'll get cold eventually. And if you have to stand and wait, it's worth having an extra layer just for that.<br /><br />I think it's easy when the weather warms up to forget what it was like when it was cold, especially when we've had several years of mild winters. I often wonder during summer why I own all these thick jumpers and coats, and then get to the colder seasons and remember. In your case, Ember, I should think you could largely do without a coat, but three things spring to mind immediately. One is winter funerals in the cold. Would you be OK standing at the graveside in the wet and cold without a coat? The next is the possibility of a snowy, cold winter like we haven't had for some time. In that weather, even I feel the need for a coat when I go out, which retains air around me without the inconvenience of some blanket-wrapping system. The third is camping, where one is outdoors without the opportunity to really warm up. Layers of blankets and things might be sufficient for that.<br /><br />What about a poncho?Buzzfloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10907833292561328868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-2377116408483447422017-05-19T07:38:17.630+01:002017-05-19T07:38:17.630+01:00Oh - it's been raining a lot this week, and se...Oh - it's been raining a lot this week, and several times I've been out in the rain and got wet. It's been warm rain (unusual for England!) so I didn't get cold. My clothes just dried out again as I wore them, once indoors. Here on the coast it's usually too windy for an umbrella, but one night it was pouring with rain but quite still, so I took my umbrella from the car and that was fine. Definitely I'd want to go out in the snow and the cold, but I wear my thick sweaters with high necks for that, and add a vest (as in underwear) underneath my t-shirt). But I think if I could find a coat I liked it would be a good addition. Only it has to be light, soft, quiet, not shiny at all, and very pliable.Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-87427749483152560952017-05-18T23:00:17.292+01:002017-05-18T23:00:17.292+01:00Are you absolutely sure you want never to go out i...Are you absolutely sure you want never to go out in the rain or snow again? Obviously I see it quite differently and keep a heavy coat so that my movements aren't dictated by a little thing like the weather!Hound of Hecatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09844511746240773640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-32955739675537123402017-05-18T16:30:41.182+01:002017-05-18T16:30:41.182+01:00Ah yes - the Minnesota winters! I've noticed d...Ah yes - the Minnesota winters! I've noticed down jackets feature prominently in the sartorial collections of online minimalists in Japan, too! xxPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-41684178386358738552017-05-18T16:27:11.204+01:002017-05-18T16:27:11.204+01:00I'll add my thoughts too -- I've enjoyed r...I'll add my thoughts too -- I've enjoyed reading what everyone has shared. In Northern Minnesota, a coat is always needed. In the spring and fall when it's chilly, I rarely wear one, since, as you said, I'm walking from the car to a building and don't need a coat for just one minute outside. <br /><br />In the winter when the cold goes bone deep in seconds, we have to have heavily protective, efficient coats. In January when it can be 30 degrees below zero (Celsius), even walking briskly from the car to the library or grocery store could freeze the skin. It hurts to go outside. <br /><br />I have a winter coat and a spring/rain coat. Michael, on the other hand, had eight coats and always thought he needed more. A hunting coat with blaze orange fabric, a dress coat, two windbreakers (one thin and one lined), a down-filled parka for below zero weather, a leather jacket, and others! Every time we went to a store to buy something we needed, he would invariably say, "I'd like to look at coats while we're here," and then he'd see the look on my face and crack up. <br /><br />I couldn't tolerate a crunchy, swishy, crackly sounding garment either. <br /><br />xoxoJulie B.http://www.justjulieb.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-83398782923584864942017-05-17T22:18:07.834+01:002017-05-17T22:18:07.834+01:00Or a boiled wool jacket? I remember once chatting ...Or a boiled wool jacket? I remember once chatting with a street sweeper about the best rain gear. He was emphatic about wearing a knitted hat. And wool does sheep very well for rainy weather, doesn't it!Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-44433351533454739442017-05-17T19:43:23.919+01:002017-05-17T19:43:23.919+01:00I know just what you mean about that horrid swishy...I know just what you mean about that horrid swishy swoshy swoosh of nylon waterproofs - very intrusive when you're being mindful of the world around you. What about a warm squishy squashy smoosh of a knitted jacket :-) kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16852963693304001127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-44128449180822156432017-05-17T14:11:14.282+01:002017-05-17T14:11:14.282+01:00I hadn't heard of that firm - how practical an...I hadn't heard of that firm - how practical and comfortable their clothes look!Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-9805561753127755972017-05-17T14:03:32.197+01:002017-05-17T14:03:32.197+01:00A company called Rekucci makes comfortable, modern...A company called Rekucci makes comfortable, modern basics. Super moveable. They are moderately priced; available through Amazon. <br /><br />You might get lucky and find something second hand on Ebay.Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09930158904510151821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-63132075639644928602017-05-17T13:08:58.509+01:002017-05-17T13:08:58.509+01:00"Bulky and bothersome" - yes, my problem..."Bulky and bothersome" - yes, my problem too; exactly! And the thing is, in the coat one is always going somewhere. To get the groceries, for example. The coat is fine for the going, but too hot once inside the store, too bulky for the activity of getting stuff off shelves and packing etc, and a really bad combination with a backpack full of groceries. Or maybe I'm going to meet someone for coffee. The coat is fine for going, but the café is boring hot and there's nowhere to put coats except on the back of the chair where it falls off and people trip over it. A fox has the right idea about coats. Grow your own.Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-72303717201453901812017-05-17T12:58:21.092+01:002017-05-17T12:58:21.092+01:00I own one, but I'm not sure I wore it more tha...I own one, but I'm not sure I wore it more than twice all winter!<br />I find them bulky and bothersome.rebeccahttp://lifeandgodliness-rebecca.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-152226093583420502017-05-16T21:48:14.932+01:002017-05-16T21:48:14.932+01:00A key word in what both you and Jen have written i...A key word in what both you and Jen have written is "walking". Though we do have a car, with 6 adults sharing a house most journeys are on foot. The footwear of many minimalist blogger - ballet pumps and a pair of high-heeled boots - does not resemble ours. Ours are more on the rugged side.<br /><br />Walkers need almost specialist outerwear and footwear. How I think of it is that the coats and shoes of walkers are the equivalent of a driver's car. <br /><br />A category you identify, "warm but breathable" is also very important to me. I used to wear fleeces a lot because they are so light and soft, but gradually gave them up because I felt as though I was suffocating in all but the iciest weather. I've become a big fan of merino, and also of cashmere. Many minimalist bloggers identify a wool/cashmere mix as a very good choice for a coat.Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-17897199149419560982017-05-16T19:42:28.292+01:002017-05-16T19:42:28.292+01:00For me coats and jackets are vital, and I probably...For me coats and jackets are vital, and I probably have more of them than any other single wardrobe item. I find there is never one perfect coat for to fit all the scenarios I find myself in, but that the right coat for the right circumstance makes a world of difference. I like my coats to be warm but breathable, stylish but understated and allowing for movement. Some coats I do not like at all. Like you I hate synthetic raincoats. I would rather wear wool in the rain and then dry it out. It used to bother me that I had so many coats and jackets when I was always trying to get rid of stuff and have less, but now I just take pleasure in the collection I have and enjoy wearing them. I live in Scotland, in a small town where I do things like walking the dog in forests and hills, working in a public facing job, and taking trips to the city for going to the theatre or museums or seeing friends. Between the variety of things I do, and the fact that the weather is so extremely variable here, I just accept that I need a variety of outer layers to see me through what I do.<br />Also if you are wearing a good coat, it matters less what is under it.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03917138336646728552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-65939117412019317032017-05-16T11:51:50.120+01:002017-05-16T11:51:50.120+01:00I am a big believer in natural fabrics - especiall...I am a big believer in natural fabrics - especially now we know all the plastic fibres are gradually turning us ad our oceans into plastic! But like you I do have some synthetics or natural/synthetic mixes - in sweaters, the synthetics make them both light and soft, which is important to me. I used to have homemade cotton skirts too - from cotton homespun, so lovely - but I have v ugly legs (bad veins) and am fatter these days; I need either leggings or tights with them, which just adds to the amount of clobber in the wardrobe, so I went over to trousers. I think I'm really a skirts person on the inside though. I always love the look of them - just not on me any more!Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-79026184855160013122017-05-16T11:40:15.097+01:002017-05-16T11:40:15.097+01:00Pen I live in the subtropics and I often feel hot ...Pen I live in the subtropics and I often feel hot when I see people layered and coated when the temperatures are plus 25 degrees Celsius. Even though I do live in hot and humid climate there are some coats and wraps in the cupboard. Because I do travel and sometimes such an item is necessary. For those times I have a red coat that is three years old, a cape mum made in the mid 1980's, a long drizabone style denim coat I bought in 1988 and a slowly growing supply of hand knitted scarfs etc that I am making for the sheer enjoyment knitting brings me. If someone is travelling we tend to share our winter wardrobes.<br /><br />My daily wardrobe consists of simple homemade cotton skirts and tees, or jeans when it is colder. At present my wardrobe feels over stuffed to me. I need a minimum of seven tees because I have to change those every day. <br /><br />My personal clothing is mainly cotton, wool, linen and some synthetics because I feel the heat so very badly. I would hate to have crunchy clothing. Soft and breathable is important to me.<br /><br />God bless you and have fun on your search.Suzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15283293507101152512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-38149212500032410572017-05-16T11:31:02.600+01:002017-05-16T11:31:02.600+01:00Ooh yes - come over for a cup of tea - we can have...Ooh yes - come over for a cup of tea - we can have a Thinking Day like the Girl Guides! Well, a Thinking couple of hours anyway! Yes, I had to abandon the wraps and the robe-type dresses and the Plain Dress garb for the exact same reason - too conspicuous. "Slide through the world unnoticed". That one. You have me email to fix up a time to come over? I think I have yours still, so I'll email you to begin a conversation. <br />Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-26149513818769139042017-05-16T11:19:21.795+01:002017-05-16T11:19:21.795+01:00ha ha! I'm glad you liked it.
I downloaded t...ha ha! I'm glad you liked it. <br /><br />I downloaded the sample of that book and it looks fabulous, but I suspect the sort of thing which would cause me a huge amount of minimalist envy, a level I just cannot reach at all. I've learnt not to read things which mean I beat myself up at length. <br /><br />I've found that blue and grey is the majority of my wardrobe, but where I used to love turquoise it is now too bright, I'm trying to figure out if I can dye my favourite things which don't quite work in colour. <br /><br />I too have a black suit with a white shirt for my band performances, I find black to be too draining for me in general use, so that whole outfit is just for performances. I even had to buy a white bra especially - most frustrating. <br /><br />The monastic habit is something I would love, except it is too anachronistic, I find that jeans and a shirt work very well as this, except I have other clothes for dog walking and doing yoga at home, otherwise they would wear too quickly. I also have a great big woollen jumper which is so snuggly. I never leave the house in it, but it is possibly my favourite item of clothing. <br /><br />I tend to buy the vast majority of my clothes from one supplier as I know they fit my body, they are ethical and the clothes LAST. Yes, they are expensive, but I buy so little that it doesn't matter - I can afford to spend. <br /><br />I too can't be doing with anything that doesn't fit - but of course you never really know until you have worn it a day, by which time it is too late to return it. hence, why tending to buy from the same place .<br /><br />I just want to slide through the world unnoticed, as a photographer and writer I don't want people to LOOK AT ME. If they don't see me it is easier to observe- you have said something similar on numerous occasions. <br /><br />On that I had to get rid of the wraps, I love them, but they are just so politically charged that it draws attention. I do admire women in their hijab tho.... I tend to wear buffs and beanies now, so my head is held, but I just disappear. <br /><br />OH and I would HAVE to get rid of that cagoule! Crunchy wrists and rustling - UGH! <br /><br />BTW I would love to come over for a pot of tea - it's not that far and I can make a day of it and explore the countryside. I'm also aware you like your solitude, so I don't want to just invite myself over, but the offer is there! <br /><br />jenhttp://www.liminalluminous.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-37661674483504194472017-05-15T21:44:05.832+01:002017-05-15T21:44:05.832+01:00A soft one! How lovely. Mine is crackly and rusty....A soft one! How lovely. Mine is crackly and rusty. Shudder.Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.com