tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post5270426653383574818..comments2023-12-18T17:32:03.325+00:00Comments on Kindred of the Quiet Way: Note to selfUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-16269630371193913662012-06-02T10:57:53.951+01:002012-06-02T10:57:53.951+01:00Alice - the Third Order of Franciscans likewise ha...Alice - the Third Order of Franciscans likewise has its members work out for themselves a personal rule of life.Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-67322438610940150732012-06-02T10:53:56.917+01:002012-06-02T10:53:56.917+01:00Oh, thanks, Alice! xOh, thanks, Alice! xPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-63927339359725551282012-06-02T10:44:26.339+01:002012-06-02T10:44:26.339+01:00I love it, Ember. It reminds me of some of the doc...I love it, Ember. It reminds me of some of the documents provided when I did a course at Woodbrooke Quaker Study Centre a while back. It was called "A rule to live by", based around encouraging people to write out our "Rule of life" and think about the community which could support us and hold us accountable in living it. Several previous participants had sent their Rule documents to be shown (without identifying information) to the next group doing the course. I love hearing what people have found helps in staying near to God.<br /><br />Washable menstrual supplies - I like the "Days for Girls" site - they encourage crafters to donate a day to make these for girls around the world who otherwise wouldn't be able to go to school when they have their period as they have nothing to use. Patterns at the website and all the instructions for making a couple of simple designs which could be a good start for someone just starting down that path.Alice Y.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16267449289432878102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-10907046540541106342012-06-02T08:41:11.346+01:002012-06-02T08:41:11.346+01:00:0):0)Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-10712155421424719142012-06-02T00:28:16.020+01:002012-06-02T00:28:16.020+01:00bleached toilet paper is dangerous.
I like to read...bleached toilet paper is dangerous.<br />I like to read your blogWimmerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05146910590840292103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-43748524296519446812012-06-01T22:49:29.537+01:002012-06-01T22:49:29.537+01:00Could ladies who have made their own sanitary towe...Could ladies who have made their own sanitary towels offer some advice on technique?Buzzfloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10907833292561328868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-8719684280883648092012-06-01T15:54:00.651+01:002012-06-01T15:54:00.651+01:00Daisy . . . the Church Times . . .
;)Daisy . . . the Church Times . . .<br /><br />;)Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-74910906652374043412012-06-01T15:53:39.485+01:002012-06-01T15:53:39.485+01:00Sarah - yes, good idea, I will take up the points ...Sarah - yes, good idea, I will take up the points you make in tomorrow's post.<br />Just an initial general observation: my experience is that if I talk about my way of living (which I have learned not to do except here), it often finds a defensive reaction. People pick out one or two aspects, insist that for special reasons it couldn't possibly work for them, and on those grounds dismiss the whole endeavour.<br />At one time I was committed to attempting to convert others to my way of thinking, but I no longer am. My focus now is on discerning and following a way that works for me, in my particular context with all its limitations. <br />But you are not the only one to have wondered how this might work for flat-dwellers or disabled folk.<br />As I have lived in a one-bedroom flat, live now in an urban context, and am not disabled but no great shakes on DIY or difficult physical endeavours, yes I will happily address these questions! xxPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-46456209564135707832012-06-01T15:46:43.337+01:002012-06-01T15:46:43.337+01:00Hi friends :0)
Asta - re the dry hair, I was inte...Hi friends :0)<br /><br />Asta - re the dry hair, I was interested to read that the cider vinegar amount can be varied to affect this. More cider vinegar softens the hair further, so if you have dry hair you can add a little more, if your hair has gone a bit lank, add less. I believe that, as you say, coconut oil is also great for dry hair, and I have heard that ladies of African descent also favour coconut oil.Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-74682670172670090442012-06-01T12:59:00.324+01:002012-06-01T12:59:00.324+01:00"Church Times, which would be admirable for t..."Church Times, which would be admirable for the purpose." So true! ROFLMAO!!!DaisyAnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12680034482022415405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-32889949072814645182012-06-01T12:05:53.445+01:002012-06-01T12:05:53.445+01:00Ember,
Your path is admirable. It is visionary, ...Ember,<br /><br />Your path is admirable. It is visionary, gentler and humane. Now, how can such plans as these be translated so that those living in flats (highrise for our North American friends) the frail/infirm, those with disabilities etc can participate? In many juristictions tank water for domestic use is still a no-no (check with your local council to see what is permitted within your LGA), increasingly, wood stoves are, in a twist of irony, being 'outlawed' for 'Green' purposes and at any rate, for folk in a place like Australia, many regions are too hot for combustion water heating/cookery for most of the year and firebans would prevent such being operated even in a kitchen or canteena separate from the house during stretches of our summer months. Many of us, though we would love otherwise, are part of the system - especially, with yet more sad irony - the vulnerable. Could 'Slow food/Slow money/slow living/transitional town' inspired households be established similar to the amazing L'Arche model to be a way forward for we with a disability, the elderly/infirm, the lonely, the isolated? ...Australia has the highest rate of urbanisation in the world; I think it is up around 91% of our overall population. Our wonderful 'Gardening Australia host 'Kosta' has sparked an interest in nature-strip/grass verge veg patches and already one local council has successfully outlawed them. systemic change is needed so those of us who would love to can, because the post WWII model is, I fear, in the medium term, largely unsustainable. <br /><br />I would genuinely appreciate your thoughts upon this in a future post. <br /><br />I am in full agreement with you re financials, and thank God daily we are out of debt. <br /><br />Blessings,<br /><br />Sarah,<br />Australia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-73313009458326550862012-06-01T10:47:37.259+01:002012-06-01T10:47:37.259+01:00Oh how I love the conversation going on here. I on...Oh how I love the conversation going on here. I only use bicarb and vinegar to wash my hair now, and I love it. I finish off with a little fairtrade, organic coconut oil when it is dry. <br />In Australia we can get both bicarb and borax in the supermarket Daisyanon. <br />Toilet cloths - you know how excited this gets me Ember. For those who are nervous about sharing laundered ones - I don't. My family wouldn't dream of using them and I wouldn't share anyway. And I only use them for number ones. I don't use them everyday. I just forget, but I do prefer them. <br />Sanitary pads - I have made liners from pre-loved flannel pillowslips. I have also made some thicker ones that are very effective. I have used the lining that is used in the re-usable nappies. There is two types. One is bamboo - I can't remember what the other is. <br />What fun this is. Asta xAsta Landerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07198914250718518607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-45905082295803987372012-06-01T06:37:40.759+01:002012-06-01T06:37:40.759+01:00Hi Hawthorne :0) I don't use cloths for poo e...Hi Hawthorne :0) I don't use cloths for poo either, because it's helpful to add paper (or sawdust or something) to the compost. With this in mind I line the receptacle with loo paper, wipe with loo paper, then wash with plain water. Thus the resulting parcel is encased in loo paper,making it not messy in handling for disposal and adding helpful carbon to the composting process. I should use newspaper really I guess - I don't read newspapers but the Badger does take the Church Times, which would be admirable for the purpose.<br />Washing, whether with just water or cloths, is cleaner than using paper. <br />I am past the age for sanitary towels but one of our household, who walks the same path I do, reports well of the cloth ones - better than disposable.<br />She puts the water from rinsing them through prior to washing on the roses (saves on blood-and-bone fertiliser and is more humane).Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-16508068746597516762012-05-31T21:03:14.602+01:002012-05-31T21:03:14.602+01:00A true recipe for life there, Ember.I follow many ...A true recipe for life there, Ember.I follow many of these myself, and aim to do more. <br />I have been starting to make myself un-paper towels for the kitchen, but it never occurred to me till now to replace toilet paper too. I have been using cloth sanitary towels for years, making my own liners from used sheets, so wiping wee with a cloth is just another step on. I'm not sure that I'm ready for poo wiping yet though, as the weblink you posted pointed out, it's no different from using cloth nappies. Just a pyschological barrier to work on there.Hawthornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08538563836252189874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-68784156095999531502012-05-31T20:35:56.016+01:002012-05-31T20:35:56.016+01:00Daisyanon - yep - baking soda. You can get borax ...Daisyanon - yep - baking soda. You can get borax and bicarb from hardware stores. x<br /><br />Hi Gail :0) Why would you not compost human waste? Everyone did up until about 80 years ago. And the job is half done inside you! xPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-28715000888919970272012-05-31T16:07:51.716+01:002012-05-31T16:07:51.716+01:00Hi Ember, that's a very complete list. It does...Hi Ember, that's a very complete list. It does have me thinking. For example: I don't think I will ever (never say never) composte human waste. On the other hand, I could easily get horse manure off the road, we live in Amish country. Probably what stops me is looking odd to our few neighbors, must get over this! The world does press in on one but, I'm trying to be transformed by the spirit.Sorry to ramble....Gailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06378851384181360340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-54760426465314258222012-05-31T12:27:19.697+01:002012-05-31T12:27:19.697+01:00Fascinating article on the family cloth. Not enti...Fascinating article on the family cloth. Not entirely convinced I want to do this! :) But I think it is a cultural attitude thing as much as any rational objection. Without going into TMI I think toilet paper will continue to work best for me.<br /><br />Not sure I want to use a cloth that <i>someone else</i> has used before even if it has been laundered.<br /><br />Yes, I worried about the reduction in income in retirement, but I seem to have more disposable income now. Partly better management, but also developing some of your general principles if not the specifics.<br /><br />I would like to try the bicarbonate of soda and the borax but have no idea where to buy these things in sufficient quantity. Can you advise? The bicarb of soda isn't the same as baking soda is it? Or is it?<br /><br />I have seen a lot of references on American sites but worry that we are not talking the same language, LOL!DaisyAnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12680034482022415405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-40597399715511210702012-05-31T08:44:55.311+01:002012-05-31T08:44:55.311+01:00A second thought, Daisyanon - you know, this path ...A second thought, Daisyanon - you know, this path may read narrow, but it doesn't feel narrow. I have a better combination of free time and disposable income than almost any person I know.Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-14419849798379837052012-05-31T08:32:24.742+01:002012-05-31T08:32:24.742+01:00:0) Hi friend!
Family cloths:
http://www.pennile...:0) Hi friend!<br /><br />Family cloths:<br />http://www.pennilessparenting.com/2010/06/reusable-toilet-paper-family-cloth.htmlPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-34982800742918936102012-05-31T08:22:17.391+01:002012-05-31T08:22:17.391+01:00A modern personal Book of Leviticus! Or so it see...A modern personal Book of Leviticus! Or so it seemed to read.<br /><br />Um, 'family cloths' as toilet paper??? What does this mean?<br /><br />As so often, your path is too narrow for me, but I am with you on a lot of the general principle.<br /><br />I look forward to reading about your travels along this way.DaisyAnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12680034482022415405noreply@blogger.com