tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post8625186167930764432..comments2023-12-18T17:32:03.325+00:00Comments on Kindred of the Quiet Way: A triggered memoryUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-84491738448348082482013-03-26T21:52:43.966+00:002013-03-26T21:52:43.966+00:00:0)
I grew up in the Anglican Church, but was rec...:0)<br /><br />I grew up in the Anglican Church, but was received into the Catholic Church when I was twenty, living in York, a member of an interdenominational lay community with an Ampleforth monk as our mentor and chaplain.<br />At 21, expecting my first baby, I (and my husband) moved from York to Hastings, where I knew no-one. He became organist of an Anglo-Catholic Church, and I went to mass there with him until our second child was born. Finding high mass with a toddler and baby hard to manage, I began to attend worship with my parents-in-law at the Methodist Church. As time went by I became involved in leading and teaching there. I was invited into membership, and said I'd like to but wanted to be Catholic still as well - wanted joint membership. Bear in mind that I knew little about ecclesiastical structures in my twenties, and saw no problem in joint Methodist-Catholic membership. The minister made friendly ecumenical noises and I froze in complete shock when he announced in public worship that I would be transferring my membership from the Catholic Church to the Methodist Church. But I stayed, became a Local Preacher and then (for about 12 years) a Methodist Minister. <br />I am no longer a minister, and currently worship in a church in the Catholic tradition of the Church of England. <br />Somewhere along the way I also attended Quaker meeting for two years.<br />The Servants With Jesus greatly value ecumenical understanding; just as well, eh?<br />I have never written an autobiography, but this book has a LOT of autobiographical stuff in it: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spiritual-Care-Dying-Bereaved-People/dp/085746115X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364334741&sr=8-1<br /><br />x<br /><br />Pen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-88072483623135580802013-03-26T19:36:29.693+00:002013-03-26T19:36:29.693+00:00Although it is kind of buried in the middle of you...Although it is kind of buried in the middle of your post, I am intrigued by your statement "I came to Methodism from the Roman Catholic church (not out of a change of ideology, just happenstance)" - how does this happen by happenstance? I was wondering if you have written a spiritual history or autobiography in any one place, either on this blog or in a book? I would LOVE to hear your story, or as much of it as you wish to share - I am both fascinated and often ministered to by reading/hearing other people's faith journeys. Especially in light of the fact that my own has been so complicated. Just a little request from a faithful reader. xoxoAmy Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13939112771446559496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-89834827444820458642013-03-25T06:25:14.396+00:002013-03-25T06:25:14.396+00:00:0) x:0) xPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-67423128792588176972013-03-25T02:10:25.356+00:002013-03-25T02:10:25.356+00:00wow! very thought provoking! thank you1wow! very thought provoking! thank you1Juleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16827683674114389640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-48505873858182875252013-03-24T23:35:28.688+00:002013-03-24T23:35:28.688+00:00Hi San, Hi Deb :0) xHi San, Hi Deb :0) xPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-77142485427591461282013-03-24T17:20:18.619+00:002013-03-24T17:20:18.619+00:00Yes, the Steubenville incident is a tragedy and a ...Yes, the Steubenville incident is a tragedy and a travesty. It is so difficult to come to process all the facets of this.<br /><br />In contrast . . . what you share of your efforts to confer the clearly "earned"/desired/appropriate membership recognition to your church attendees is beautiful. Even more so the honored position you extended to them to attend your ordination and their faithfulness displayed in the long wait.<br /><br />You are a woman in whom Jesus' heart can be seen.<br /><br />God bless you, Pen.Deb D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15667732964425801280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-86071911164734688512013-03-24T15:44:44.369+00:002013-03-24T15:44:44.369+00:00You are totally right on and yes it is important a...You are totally right on and yes it is important and precious to speak up for those who are unable to do so. My Uncle Paddy, one of my mum's younger brothers was left brain damaged as a result of the whooping cough vaccine, but regardless of his disability he was welcomed into the church to receive Holy Communion and I truly believe on a deeper level, he knew it was the Lord in his midst.<br /><br />San xSandra Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16260644073051470011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-57873827458537063552013-03-24T10:42:32.180+00:002013-03-24T10:42:32.180+00:00Thanks for your good thoughts, friends xxxThanks for your good thoughts, friends xxxPen Wilcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818227904371811230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-47691440655453499582013-03-23T23:39:14.607+00:002013-03-23T23:39:14.607+00:00Pen, I have found this case so difficult because t...Pen, I have found this case so difficult because there are a number of difficult issues involved that are hard to articulate without condemnation. The girl concerned should have had more respect for herself than to end up in that condition. Her *friends* should have looked out for her. All the boys should have known better. In the end all that's left is shattered lives. Each one needs the love of God, His healing touch, forgiveness. I feel so much sadness for everyone involved in this case ~ yes, even those boys. They were riding high & now their lives are in ruins. They never expected that ~ & that is society's fault.<br /><br />When it comes to disabilities what I do know is that the Spirit knows things the physical man will never understand & it is the Spirit that responds. The outer shell is nothing when it comes to the things of the Spirit.<br /><br />Did you ever read Karen Armstrong's <i>Through the Narrow Gate</i>? What particularly stayed in my memory is the disabled child who found something in the mass & his spirit responded though both his parents were atheists. I found that fascinating.<br /><br />Random thoughts after not much sleep. Every generation seems to have some area that has grown out of kilter & needs *fixing*.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00570697333076967654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-89838592729632082212013-03-23T21:17:29.568+00:002013-03-23T21:17:29.568+00:00This is the heart of one of my biggest struggles, ...This is the heart of one of my biggest struggles, raised as a Protestan, parenting a nonverbal son. I envy my Catholic friends, whose church long ago figure these things out for them.Pilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13263860830512792429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-36362756090976348432013-03-23T21:16:50.996+00:002013-03-23T21:16:50.996+00:00I only heard about Steubenville last night...life ...I only heard about Steubenville last night...life has been challenging here and I have been out of it. It brought so much up...maybe because I am a mother of five boys...but I do have one daughter.<br /><br />I am also a Protestant...Baptist background, and grew up with disabled in our church and my family all my life...I never thought not assumed they couldn't have a relationship with Christ...they were welcomed and loved on in our church...one son's mother played the organ, he was there weekly.<br /><br />What an interesting piece...and one that will be added to our family discussion.Janettessage.blogspot.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01262598732466380229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-76385250695033561382013-03-23T21:15:40.770+00:002013-03-23T21:15:40.770+00:00Yes, they do.Yes, they do.Pilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13263860830512792429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-31807777465465382112013-03-23T20:56:17.345+00:002013-03-23T20:56:17.345+00:00Yes. Lord have mercy.Yes. Lord have mercy.Patriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05124987111650146853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-55532501364780143.post-36568593021702787472013-03-23T20:04:34.611+00:002013-03-23T20:04:34.611+00:00Yes. Not only kindness but grace is important.
I ...Yes. Not only kindness but grace is important.<br /><br />I thought about the girl at Steubenville that we should not see other people's undesirable behaviour as reason to treat them badly, but to reach out and help them. When you think about that, it makes you realise how at odds such a concept is with a culture in which punishment is a root assumption and care only for those who work for it. So often I go back to your story from 'The Hawk and the Dove' about the root of the cross being mercy, not justice. (Because, of course, true justice is perfectly expressed in mercy.) And thank Heaven for it!<br /><br />For the record, although your friends and family would have loved to celebrate your ordination with you, I think we would all stand aside again to do the same thing if we had to repeat that day. This also reminds me of Jesus' saying, "Who is my mother?" etc. His family were already his family - showing honour to those who had no claim on it spoke much more about what the Gospel is. Your ordination party receiving communion must have been accompanied by angels dancing and punching the air. :-)Buzzfloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10907833292561328868noreply@blogger.com